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National 8M Torch and Accessories

National 8M torch for
glass lamp workers, bead makers, flame workers,
glass blowers, button makers, and marble makers


 lampworking-torch-8m-national
This is the most versatile torch made!
It can hold a great variety of tips - both pre-mix tips and surface mix tips.
You Can Order Parts Separately
OR
Order one of the pre-packaged kits below.
If you do not know which one to get - order the 8M7 which is a good all around torch and tip.
OR we wouldn't mind if you ordered the 8MtheWORKS, includes most everything.
To watch a RealPlayer video of this torch Click Here
You Can Order parts Separately.
Torch Body Only #8M Lists for $166
Our LOW price is $149. Tips are listed below at the bottom of this page. Or order one of the pre-packaged kits below.
If you do not know which one to get - order the 8M7 which is a good all around torch and tip.
OR order the 8MtheWORKS
Torch Body with the SM5 Surface Mix Tip - Melts both Soft and Hard Glass
Order Number 8M5 for $219



OR
Torch Body with the SM7 Surface Mix Tip - Melts both Soft and Hard Glass
Order Number 8M7 for $219



Order Number SM5 or SM7

List Price - $245
Our Low Price -
$219
Torch Body with the SM21 Surface Mix
A LARGE Flame Tip
Melts both Soft and Hard Glass



Order Number 8MT21

List Price - $269
Our Low Price -
$229
Torch Body with Two Tips - an HTC1 Tip and a Second larger Bushier Flame Tip - Includes the required PA-11 Adaptor - These Pre Mix Tips Melt only Hard Borosilicate Glass like Pyrex



Order Number 8M2

List Price - $297
Our Low Price -
$259
  Mount a second tip on your Torch Body. WOW you can put all sizes of Pre Mix Tips in the Top Torch. In the Bottom Torch you can put ANY size or type of tip we carry, surface or premix. A common combination is the HTC1 premix in the top and the large flame SM21 surface mix in the bottom. If you want this combination, order the 8MR121 setup for $469 - Includes the manifold hose setup, PA-11 adapter,SM21 and HTC1 tips



Order Number 8MR121

List Price - $510
Our Low Price -
$469
  Get the Works!   Why not get just about Everything! You get the 8M, Ryder, PA-11 Adaptor, SM7 tip, SM21 tip, HTC1 tip and the HTC3 tip.



Order Number 8MtheWORKS

List Price - $649
Our Low Price - $589
You need the following equipment to use this torch:
  1. Oxygen Regulator - Prices are below
  2. Propane Regulator - Prices are below
  3. Hose - Prices below details and setup
  4. Oxygen Tank - details
  5. Propane Tank

This 8M torch with the surface mix tips listed on this page, you can use all kinds of glass, both Hard Glass. Borosilicate Glass (Pyrex, Duran, Kimble, Schott, Northstar, Alchemy, Momka, etc) or
Soft glass (Moretti, Effetre, Bullseye)
.
Although Pre-Mix tips work Hard Borosilicate Pyrex type glass FASTER!
But the beauty of this torch is that you can convert it to a torch that can be
used for either soft or hard glass by changing the tip..
What you can make with this torch.
   Soft Glass Hard Glass
 Beads and Buttons  Yes  Yes
 Beads and Buttons with intricate detail  Yes  No
 Marbles, Paperweights  Yes  Yes
 Marbles, Paperweights with intricate detail  Yes  No
 Sculptures  No  Yes
 Blow Vessels or Ornaments  No  Yes
 Glassblowing  No  Yes
 Blow Pipes, Bubblers  No  Yes
This is just a guideline - a good lampworker can make most anything.

Item # Some Items Individually Priced Price
  8M   Torch body and base only, tips are extra.

$149
 Ryder 8R  Ryder Torch Attachment, Mounts on top of 8M Torch - You mount it using the two holes on top of the 8M Torch Body

$99
 RyderHose 8RM  Hose Manifold Set for Ryder Torch - Assembled - Plumbs both torches to one hose set

$49
 PA-11

Adaptor - You must use this adaptor to be able to use any of the pre-mix tips listed on this page.


$47
 A2  

A set of oxygen and propane fittings are required if your hose has cut ends. These are not needed if your hose has B size brass fittings on the ends.


Set of 2
$5

TIPS for the National 8M Torch
These single hole TIPS work with the National 8M Torch.
The PA11 adaptor is also needed.

Tips for the National 8M Torch: OX-1, OX-2, OX-3, OX-4, OX-5 Single Orifice / One Holed Pre-Mix Tips
Single Orifice - Pre-Mix Tips
Tips for the National 8M Torch HTM-0, HTM-1, HTM-2, HTM-3, HTC-0, HTC-1, HTC-2, HTC-3 Multiple Orifice/Multiple Hole Torch Tip
Multiple Orifice - Pre-Mix Tips
If these tips are to be used with the 8M torch, a PA-11 adaptor is required. It is shown up the page.

Volume Discount for Torch Tips
By purchasing multiple tips in group tipdiscount you
can receive up to 25% your purchase.

If your purchase exceeds $60 put in coupon code TORCHTIPS1 to receive a 10% discount.
If your purchase exceeds $90 add coupon code
TORCHTIPS2 to receive an additional 10% for total of 20% discount.
If your total purchase exceeds $120.00 enter the first two coupons plus this coupon
TORCHTIPS3 and you will receive an additional discount of 5% for a total of 25% Discount

Order #

Description this group of tips qualifies for tipdiscount Price
  OX-00 One Hole -.020 Smallest size $22
  OX-0 One Hole .032 $21
  OX-1 One hole  .042 $17
  OX-2 One Hole  .055 $14
  OX-3 One Hole .07 $14
  OX-4 One Hole .082 $14
  OX-5 One Hole - Largest size .1 $12

Order #

Description this group of tips qualifies for tipdiscount Price
 HTM-0  7 holes - each .04 inch diameter holes $39
 HTM-1  9 holes - each .04 inch diameter holes $39
 HTM-2  9 holes - each .048 inch diameter holes $39
 HTM-03  9 holes - each .055 inch diameter holes $39

Order #

Description this group of tips qualifies for tipdiscount Price
 HTC-0  7 holes - Silent Burn $41
 HTC-1  12 holes - Silent Burn $44
 HTC-2  19 holes - Silent Burn $49
 HTC-3  31 holes - Silent Burn click here to see the HT3 tip fired up $55
CAUTION - all tips are subject to burning out if you have an improper torch adjustment. The HT-2 and HT-3 are the most sensitive tips to burning out and these are not recommended for beginners who are learning how to adjust their torches properly - therefore these and all tips are not guaranteed from burning out. Please see the person who instructed you to learn the proper torch adjustment.


Ribbon Burner Tips

Order #

Description Price
Ribbon Burner Tips Ribbon Burner Tips   3/4" Long
  12 hole
  #1680
Ribbon Burner Tips Ribbon Burner Tips


$65
Ribbon Burner Tips   2" Long
  15 holes
  #1681


$79
Adaptor
 #PA-11
Required for the ribbon burner tips.


$47

Surface Mix Tips
These tips can be used with the 8M Torch.
YES you can have a torch with both surface mix tips AND pre mix tips
These Surface Mix torches work with both the soft and hard (Pyrex) glass.
Simply insert the tip you want into this National 8M Torch!
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 The PA-11 adaptor is not needed with these surface mix tips.

Order #

Description Price
SM-5 Surface Mix Tip - fits in the 8M National Torch - The flame of this tip is very much like the Minor Burner Torch Flame.

$82
SM-7 Surface Mix Tip - fits in the 8M National Torch
With this tip you can adjust the size for the flame. A low valve setting will give a more pointed flame. Turn up the valves and you get a larger diameter flame. see pictures below.


$82
SM-11 Surface Mix Tip - fits in the 8M National Torch
With this tip you can adjust the size for the flame. A low valve setting will give a more pointed flame. Turn up the valves and you get a larger diameter flame.


$104
SM-21 Surface Mix Tip - fits in the 8M National Torch - large flame

$109

The below is a comparison between the 8M Torch and the popular Minor Bench Burner Torch.

when the 8M torch is adjusted low, you can get a small pointed flame which is good for doing detail work on soft glass. When the torch is adjusted higher, you get an increasingly larger and bushier flame,
Big-O-Flame

Accessories for the 8M Torch
There is 2 screw holes on top of the torch where you will need to mount the Marvering pad and the Shield.

Order #

Description Price
1587 Torch Mounted Marvering Pad for 8M Torch

$49



Gas Equipment

for lampworkers, Glass Beadmakers and Glassblowers


Oxygen Concentrator Click Here to see our Oxygen Concentrators (Oxygen Generators)


Gas Regulators

Two regulators are required when you use a two gas, (oxygen and propane) torch. They fit between the gas tanks and the gas hose. None are needed if you are using the Hot Head torch. Oxygen Regulator is not needed if you are using an Oxygen Concentrator.

Item# Description Price
regulator-oxygen-lampworking-glass-beadmaking-glassblowing OXYGEN REGULATOR
Two gauge. One Stage - Click Here for information about regulators, about OUR regulators and warranty.

Inlet CGA 540. Outlet male "B" fitting.

Order Number REB93
$69.00
regulator-fuel-lampworking-glass-beadmaking-glassblowing FUEL GAS REGULATOR - Propane, Propylene, or Acetylene
Two gauge. One Stage -  Click here for information about regulators, about OUR regulators and warranty.

Inlet CGA 510. Outlet male "B" fitting.

Order Number REB11
$69

The fastest way to order any of these items is to call us toll free at 1-888-4HOTGLASS.


Gas Hoses

Gas Twin Hose SetUse this hose when you use a two gas torch (oxygen and propane) like a Minor Burner. To attach torch, push the cut ends onto the torch and secure with a hose clamp. These hoses have two attached hoses, one for oxygen and one for propane. The brass end of the hoses are attached to the gas regulators. Propane hose fittings are left handed threads and colored red and oxygen is right handed and colored green - This prevents a mix-up when attaching hoses.

CAUTION Do not use the easy to find oxygen/acetylene type hoses. The propane gas will rot them. The hoses we sell are made for all types of gas including propane. Hose ends have female brass fittings.

Item# Length Ends of hose - hose diameter Price
T124 12 ft (3.7 meters) Female "B" fitting one side and cut end of hose other side
1/4" diameter hose
$22
T254 25 ft (7.7 meters) Female "B" fitting on both ends
1/4" diameter hose
$34

The below larger diameter hose is only used if when you need a large hose to fit over the large inlet fittings on some torches. (You can get the smaller 1/4" hose listed above on these large inlet fittings with a bit of effort. A trick is to immerse the end of the hose in very hot water to soften the end.)

Order #

Length Ends of hose - hose diameter Price
T128 12 ft (3.7 meters) Female "B" fitting one side and cut end of hose other side
3/8" diameter hose
$29.50
T258 25 ft (7.7 meters) Female "B" fitting on both ends
3/8" diameter hose
$52.00

The fastest way to order any of these items is to call us toll free at 1-888-4HOTGLASS

Y - Connectors for Hose

Gas Y ConnectorsY Connector - Connect this fitting at the output of the regulator and attach two hoses so you can use two torches from the same tank. Oxygen and propane Y are packaged and priced separately.

Y Connector with valves - Same as the Y connector described above except has two on/off valves, one for each hose.
Item# Description Output end is a Input end is a Price
101 Y hose connector (oxygen) hose (B fitting) Oxygen regulator $19.50
102 Y hose connector (propane) hose (B fitting) Propane regulator $19.50
101V Y hose connector with valve (Oxygen) hose (B fitting) Oxygen regulator $32.50
102V Y hose connector with valve (Propane) hose (B fitting) Propane regulator $32.50

* The FA30 connects between the regulator and the gas hose and is more commonly used.


Flashback Arrestors

Flashback ArrestorsIn some rare situations, a flame can travel back down a hose to the gas tank and cause an explosion.

This device helps prevent this reverse gas flow and flashback by using a reverse flow check valve and a flame arrestor.

Packaged and priced with both an oxygen and a propane arrestor.


Item# Description Output end is a Input end is a Price
  Flashback arrestors (pair of oxygen and fuel gas) Connects directly to the fittings on a torch like the 3AB, 8M and Carlisle. We also include the fitting so you can put this arrestor in the middle of your twin hose. A good place to put this arrestor is a couple feet away from the torch. If you cut the hose you will not have fittings on the ends. Then must order one or two pair of A2 fittings for $5.00 to connect to arrestor. FA10

Female B size hose fitting

Male B size fitting using the included adaptor

Male B size hose fitting $54.00
  Flashback arrestors (pair of oxygen and fuel gas) Connects directly on the regulator. Item #FA30 Male B size gas hose fitting Female B size gas hose fitting $54.00
hose fittings Insert into cut end of hose and secure with included hose clamp. Check for leaks. Item #A214 One side Female B size hose fitting Other side a barb that fits in a 1/4" ID gas hose - use a hose clamp $5.00
hose fittings Insert into cut end of hose and secure with included hose clamp. Check for leaks. Item #A338 One side Female B size hose fitting Other side a barb that fits in a 3/8" ID gas hose - use a hose clamp $5.00
  Oxygen and Fuel Gas Fittings - The pieces in the picture labeled "included". A pair of these are included in the FA10. If you need extra pieces order the A30 and A31 parts.
A30 ox
A31 fuel
Male B size gas hose fitting Male B size gas hose fitting A30 $1.50 each

A31 $1.50 ea

Note: Flashback arrestors have an arrow stamped on it to indicate the gas flow direction.
Works in only one direction.
 
  A2 optional, not always need and are not included.

* The FA30 connects between the regulator and the gas hose and is more commonly used. Requires B size fittings on hose.


ALL IN ONE - 4 in 1



Combination Flashback Arrestor and Quick-Connect - Item# QDF30 - $79.00

Four Functions in a single item. Shorter and less expensive than if purchased separately.
  • A flashback arrestor
  • A quick connect and disconnect
  • An automatic shutoff valve
  • An internal reverse flow check valve all


Hose Quick Connects

Makes an easy job out of disconnecting and reconnecting your torch.

Disconnect your torch switching to a different torch or to put it away for safe keeping.

Great for quick classroom set up and take down.

Item# Description Input end is a Output end is a Price
QDB10 Quick Connects (pair) Male B gas hose fitting Female B fitting $49
QDB20 Quick Connects (pair) Hose to Hose Hose to Hose $49
QDB30 Quick Connects (pair) Regulator Male B hose fitting $49


Manifold Gas System

Gas ManifoldConnect up to six torches to the same gas supply with this manifold system. Included are enough fittings and plugs to make 2 to 6 hose connections. Two manifolds are required, one for oxygen and one for propane. All Brass.

Custom Manifold Systems:
We can help you figure out which parts you would need for your system and pre assemble for no extra charge. Systems might also include quick connects and flashback arrestors. Place an order

Item# Description Price
M6 Manifolds system, Includes 1 block, 7 fittings and 4 plugs - two required - specify Oxygen or Propane $57.50


Item# Description Price
MB7 Manifold block only, works with oxygen or gas $39.00
32 Extra Fitting - one side fits in the manifold block, other side fits a standard right handed thread oxygen "B" size hose fitting. $1.50
33 Extra Fitting - one side fits in the manifold block, other side fits a standard left handed thread gas "B" size hose fitting. Gas fittings have a "line notch" stamped into the nut part of the fitting to identify it as left handed threading. $1.50
P41P Extra Plug - plugs unused outlets in the manifold block $2.00

Manifold setup for 3 torches.


Spark Lighter

Use to light torches. Squeeze the handles together to cause a spark. Place an order
Order# Description Price
1501 Used to light torches. Squeeze the handles together to cause a spark. $3.00

 Click here to see our foot pedals

hose adaptor set for torches

Work Surfaces

for
Torch Lampworking, Glassblowing and
Glass Beadmaking




Work Surfaces

Protect your work table. A comfortable pair of padded foam armrests and worksurface and rod rest all in one! All stainless steel. Pictured with a Minor Burner not included.

Dimensions are usually close but can vary a bit - plus or minus a 1/2" or so.
Size   Description  Price
 Stainless Steel work surface for lampworking glass beadmaking and glassblowers #1617
12"x 13"
Stainless Steel Work Surface - 12" x 13" flat area, heavy .030" thick metal. One edge is bent so you can wrap it over the edge of your work bench. The far edge is also bent up right so you have a nice 9" long rest for your colored glass rods. $16
worksurface for lampworking glass beadmaking and glassblowing #1644
13" x 18"
Stainless Steel Work Surface - 13" x 18" flat area, heavy thick metal. Actually a bit smaller so we can fit it in a standard box. Front edge is bent so it fits nicely over the edge of your work table. The far edge is also bent up right so you have a nice 18" long rest for your colored glass rods.  May need to be sent in it's own box. $24
work surface for lampworking glass beadmaking blassblowing #1636
17" x 18"
Stainless Steel Work Surface - 17" x 18" flat area, heavy thick metal. Actually a bit smaller so we can fit it in a standard box. Front edge is bent so it fits nicely over the edge of your work table. The far edge is also bent up right so you have a nice 18" long rest for your colored glass rods.  May need to be sent in it's own box. $29
work-surface-1649sm-torch-lampworking-glassblowing #1655
16"x 28"
Stainless Steel work surface - actually 16" x 28" flat area, heavy thick metal. Front edge is bent so it fits nicely over the edge of your work table. The far edge is also bent up right so you have a nice 28" long rest for your colored glass rods. PLUS if this is shipped, it must go in it's own box. $45
worksurface for torch lampworking #1643
14"x 28"
Stainless Steel work surface with Arm rests and built on rod rest - 14" x 28" flat area. (Actually a bit smaller so we can fit it in a standard box.) PLUS if this is shipped, it must go in it's own box. $55

Accessories pictured not included.
Morretti Northstar Boroscilicate Pyrex Effetre colored glass rods resting and holding place. Durable, portable, stainless steel, can also go inside your glass bead sculpture kiln Glass Rod Rests
This movable rod rest is used to support glass rods to keep them up off the flame worker's workbench for easier grabbing, better organization, and to keep the glass rods cleaner. The rippled edge keeps the rods from rolling around. These durable stainless steel rod holders can also be placed inside a glass bead kiln to support your mandrels.


Item# Description  Price
  #RRT8 - 8" Rod rest - fits inside 9" kilns or on your workbench $5.00



  #RRT9 - 9" Rod rest - fits inside 10" kilns or on your workbench $6.00



glass rod rest for torch lampworking and glassblowing #RRT8T - 8" Rod rest - Extra Tall for easy Grabbing - see below $7.00



glass rod rest for torch lampworking and glassblowing #RRT9T - 9" Rod rest - Extra Tall for easy Grabbing - see below $8.00

  #RRT12T - 12" Rod rest - Extra Tall for easy Grabbing - see below $10.00

glass rod rest for torch lampworking and glassblowing #RRT17T - 17" Rod rest - Extra Tall for easy Grabbing - see below $14.00

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Difference between standard and tall rod rests.






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